#4 – Sunday Morning Hangover at the Saloon

Saloon of Literature Bar Rules

This delightful pic was supplied by one of our esteemed patrons Alexandra Velez. Hats off to you ma’am. Although we don’t actually want to impose any ‘rules’ within the Saloon, we were rather taken with some of the interesting thematic suggestions that the Twittersphere threw up (not literally).

Barkeep Rules Text

We’ve received plenty of suggestions, praise and comments over the last couple of weeks, and may I take this opportunity to thank you all for your support, from all 3 of us, as we genuinely appreciate every comment. Even the negative comments are good, as they help us improve and force us to think, and there is entirely no shame in being wrong once and a while.

A particular shout out must go to Mr Chris Gilchrist (aka Hitreach) for creating our awesome new header image which he generously volunteered to design. We love it and we love you Chris. Here, have a link.

In this Sunday morning love-fest I will run through some of your suggestions to see if there is any way we can implement them whilst maintaining our high standards dignity character respectability prestige ultimate goal – to provide a relaxed atmosphere where people can voice opinions without fear of being chastised. If you like any of the suggestions, then please SHOUT in the comments so that your voice will be heard. We will definitely be implementing all, some or none of the suggestions very shortly.

I appreciate you are all massively hungover so I will stop blathering on now…


After my first post about SEO conferences, a few people pointed out that the most valuable part of conferences was in the networking:


So what say you, Salooneers? Is this a worthwhile endeavour? Shall we jump on a Google+ hangout and..hang out? Or shall we take it one step further and actually (shock horror) meet up?

Saloon of Literature Anniversary Drinks

I, for one, am in.


We probably should have seen it coming, but some of our tight-arsed favourite customers wanted to set up a tab at the bar:

Free Drinks Tab

Well the good news is that everyone is free to read our posts in The Saloon! We don’t stop there, you can also comment for free, tweet about us for free and (snigger) Google+ us for free. You lucky so and sos. And we promise not to ignore you and everything.

In all seriousness, we have had a few requests from people wanting to write guest posts already. This is awesome. In the future we will definitely be looking for guest writers who bring interesting and unique ideas, but at the moment we are still trying to figure out what The Saloon actually is (part of the rationale for this post). If you have any interesting ideas for guest posts here, get in touch below.

Happy Hour

Before The Saloon was born, we chucked around a few emails about the type of content we wanted to feature. Rather than simply blog post after blog post, we were interested in implementing some discussion panels or forum-type posts. For example, we could put a question out to the community and Salooneers could pitch in with their opinions and comments. We’d not come up with an appropriate name for this, until…

‘Literature Happy Hour’. Genius. Mr Dustin J. Verburg, hat-tip to you sir. So what sort of things could we feature in Happy Hour? Anything really – we could ask ‘hot topic’ questions or present difficult SEO scenarios and ask for ideas and approaches. We would love for it to genuinely help people out in real life situations, even if they couldn’t reveal the full details of the client or scenario. It would be ‘crowdsourced consulting.’

As an example, I had a conversation with Chris Dyson on Twitter the other day where we were discussing scraping tools:

Chris shared a useful tool, which prompted a question from me on a tool I had been looking for. I am pretty sure that this tool will exist, but I can’t find it. In an example Happy Hour we could discuss various tools we have used to complete different jobs. It is not looking to be the canonical resource or ‘the complete list’, rather it would contain details of the individual experiences in their individual scenarios (By the way, if anyone has an answer to this question, then please share in the comments!).

Feedback Please

So hopefully that’s enough to stoke your appetite. If you have any thoughts on the suggestions above, or any new ideas you want us to implement, then please go ahead and comment below. And if you are still suffering from last night’s over-indulgence, why not enjoy a delicious bacon sandwich? (not free)

Bacon Sandwich


  1. Reply
    Chris November 11, 2012

    Trying to encourage community growth organically is going to be hard personally everything you said above you should do & more…

    Some things will work some won’t…,

    An idea I had was each month you recommend 4 craft beers and then do a beer tasting session on Twitter/Google+?

    What about doing a collaborative project pick a charity & design some link bait for them or do an SEO/content audit? You could even make it a contest 3 teams working on 3 different campaigns?

    I dunno just my Sunday thoughts…

    • Reply
      Patrick November 11, 2012

      Yeah you are right some things definitely won’t work. Sunday morning posting perhaps not the best idea if we want engagement…

      I like the beer tasting thing! Anyone can get involved with that, you know a good website we can order from?

      I do like the pro-bono charity thing if we could make it clear we weren’t pitching for work (everytime someone offers me an audit I immediately ‘hang up’) – but definitely collaboration and competitions will bring out the best/worst in us (delete as appropriate).

  2. Reply
    Wayne Barker November 12, 2012

    As you might expect I would be up for some beer tasting activities. Having visited this place > http://www.therealaleshop.co.uk/norfolk/ I can recommend the beer from here. I imagine with some thought and pre planning the beer could be themed – I quite like Chris’ idea of tasting in real time, making the Saloon a real Saloon – sort of…with the traces of urine that attach themselves to the on bar peanuts becoming obsolete.

    • Reply
      Patrick Hathaway November 12, 2012

      It is a cool idea. We would have to plan it and get the beer ordered and whatnot. Would be cool to also be doing something else at the same time – such as a Happy Hour discussion or similar. Who else would be up for that?

      • Reply
        Annalisa Hilliard November 19, 2012

        I like the beer tasting idea coupled with a Happy Hour discussion. I’d definitely be up for that!

  3. Reply
    Paul Gailey November 12, 2012

    Did someone mention Brewdog was served in the Saloon?

  4. Reply
    Patrick Hathaway November 12, 2012

    Yes! Brewdog! I haven’t tried any of theirs yet, but they would be ideal. Can you get them shipped to Spain?

    • Reply
      Paul Gailey November 12, 2012

      dunno fella on the export whatnot. Crockstar is a shareholder if I’m not mistaken. Forget Karma, let’s have shares for wares.

  5. Reply
    Dustin Verburg November 12, 2012

    I’m slow on the draw on this one (it’s been a busy time here in America. except for in Idaho, which neither affects nor has an effect on the rest of the country), but thanks for coming up with a great idea from my half-assed Tweet! I am really excited for this whole thing.

    … although I was not hungover on Sunday. Possibly for the first time in my adult life.

    • Reply
      Patrick November 12, 2012

      This does raise a good point though – how we can get syncronise both the drinks and the time with all the american Salooneers…

      • Reply
        Dustin Verburg November 12, 2012

        I think the answer is obvious– hire a robot barkeep. I’m imagining Rosie from the Jetsons but with a handlebar mustache and a sleeve of bad nautical tattoos.

        • Reply
          Sean November 13, 2012

          Haha, great cartoon! Couldn’t we get Jane > instead?

  6. Reply
    Scott Skinner November 12, 2012

    Is there a drinking-age restriction?
    I like the crowdsourced consulting idea
    (and the free beer idea)
    like an evergreen ‘living’ post.

  7. Reply
    Anthony the scrivener November 12, 2012

    I think a comment-point system aligned with beer would be different. (Ex. at 5000 points you becoming the Drunken Spectacle) Anyway, I dig how you’re tending (wink wink) to our Salooners, Patrick.

    i do believe we will all meet at some point, much like the Voltron of seo banter and scholastic pursuits.

    Congrats on the Hathaway on the way. make room at the Saloon. #irhymesometimes

    • Reply
      Patrick November 13, 2012

      Thanks – I’ll have to teach him darts. And pool. And poker.

      Anthony do you mean like 4Square but for beer? That would be amazing. We’ll obviously meet at next year’s SaloonCon, that is a given.

      Scott, you’re 18 right? That is not too young to drink in a UK pub (The Saloon is wherever it needs to be at whatever time at the convenience of our patrons). But who said anything about free beer?? Was I not clear in the post? You pay your way around here! But glad to hear there might be legs in the crowdsourced consulting Happy Hour thing, we’ll give it a try hopefully soon.

  8. Reply
    IrishWonder November 14, 2012

    I’d prefer a live meetup – easier to me because I’ve been banned from bloody Google+ twice

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